
The Nocturnists
Season
9
Episode
8
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Beyond Moral Injury with Lisa Rosenbaum, MD
Cardiologist Dr. Lisa Rosenbaum tells the story of how her grandfather—a physician-writer whose experience as a patient transformed his view of medicine—influenced her sense of purpose, storytelling, and care. As she navigated her own path through medicine and writing, she became increasingly interested in the cultural narratives shaping physicians’ experiences, particularly during the COVID-19 era. Drawing on a viral “Milk Duds” story and broader shifts in burnout discourse, she explores the tension between systemic failures and individual agency, arguing that meaning in medicine can sometimes come not from stepping back, but from choosing deeper engagement with patients.
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The Nocturnists
Season
9
Episode
8
|
Beyond Moral Injury with Lisa Rosenbaum, MD
Cardiologist Dr. Lisa Rosenbaum tells the story of how her grandfather—a physician-writer whose experience as a patient transformed his view of medicine—influenced her sense of purpose, storytelling, and care. As she navigated her own path through medicine and writing, she became increasingly interested in the cultural narratives shaping physicians’ experiences, particularly during the COVID-19 era. Drawing on a viral “Milk Duds” story and broader shifts in burnout discourse, she explores the tension between systemic failures and individual agency, arguing that meaning in medicine can sometimes come not from stepping back, but from choosing deeper engagement with patients.
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About Our Guest
Lisa Rosenbaum is a cardiologist and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School. She serves as the national correspondent for the New England Journal of Medicine, where she also hosts the podcast "Not Otherwise Specified." She completed medical school at the University of California, San Francisco, Internal Medicine residency at Massachusetts General Hospital, Cardiovascular Disease Fellowship at New York Presbyterian Weill-Cornell, and the National Clinical Scholars Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Her writing and podcast cover a range of issues at the intersection of science, medicine, and society. Prior to joining the Smith Center and BIDMC she practiced cardiology at Brigham and Women's Hospital for 9 years.
About The Show
The Nocturnists is an award-winning medical storytelling podcast, hosted by physician Emily Silverman. We feature personal stories from frontline clinicians, conversations with healthcare-related authors, and art-makers. Our mission is to humanize healthcare and foster joy, wonder, and curiosity among clinicians and patients alike.
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Credits

About Our Guest
Lisa Rosenbaum is a cardiologist and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School. She serves as the national correspondent for the New England Journal of Medicine, where she also hosts the podcast "Not Otherwise Specified." She completed medical school at the University of California, San Francisco, Internal Medicine residency at Massachusetts General Hospital, Cardiovascular Disease Fellowship at New York Presbyterian Weill-Cornell, and the National Clinical Scholars Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Her writing and podcast cover a range of issues at the intersection of science, medicine, and society. Prior to joining the Smith Center and BIDMC she practiced cardiology at Brigham and Women's Hospital for 9 years.
About The Show
The Nocturnists is an award-winning medical storytelling podcast, hosted by physician Emily Silverman. We feature personal stories from frontline clinicians, conversations with healthcare-related authors, and art-makers. Our mission is to humanize healthcare and foster joy, wonder, and curiosity among clinicians and patients alike.
resources
Credits

Transcript
Note: The Nocturnists is an audio-first experience with emotion and sound design that can be difficult to fully capture in text. Transcripts are provided to support accessibility and reference, but may contain minor inaccuracies. If quoting in print, please consult the audio when possible.
Transcript coming soon!

Transcript
Note: The Nocturnists is an audio-first experience with emotion and sound design that can be difficult to fully capture in text. Transcripts are provided to support accessibility and reference, but may contain minor inaccuracies. If quoting in print, please consult the audio when possible.
Transcript coming soon!
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